#Ulthwe wraithguard awaken realms plus#

Doesnt mean it might not work, but you could maybe do better with a phoenix lord, I saw someone talking about Asurmen with his 3++ and objective secured.Īlso consider the wording of the secondary, it sounds like you can hold it as long as you have an objective secured unit on the gate, but I could be wrong on that.

#Ulthwe wraithguard awaken realms plus#

Your basically losing more then 2 squads of the same size of aspect warriors for the same points, they just are not gonna make their points back, plus buffs put on them takes more points and cannot be used on another unit. The issue is how many points they are tying up. The lack of invul save is big, but looks like your planning around that. I have a couple problems with wraithguard, mainly they suck in melee.

What's your take?ĮDIT: for the Hidden Path, I'm going for a version without the Webway Gate to make it consistent on any terrain. They also save you 50 points for a unit of 10. In this case, would Wraithguard with cannons be a good alternative to Wraithblades? With 1+ save if Protect and Conceal go off, they are almost as tough as Wraithblades, yet they can also shoot quite hard (especially with Guide), overwatch fairly well (again especially with Guide), and between their shooting into combat and melee, aren't bad in close quarters. However, I'm also running a pair of Wraithseers with Protect/Jinx and Conceal/Reveal (Jinx and Reveal make Scatter Lasers quite scary even against heavily armoured targets).

The question is: what to use as a unit to hold the Hidden Path objective? The obvious answer is 10 Wraithblades with Axes and Shields buffed with Fortune and Will of Asuryan. This just seems like a similar situation.In light of TTL and Stranglehold going away, I'm considering pivoting to Banners and the Hidden Path for my vehicle-focused Ulthwe list (running Fire Prisms and D-Cannons to hit hard targets, Scatter Laser War Walkers and Vypers to screen and remove chaff). Otherwise someone should tell the tau to take -1 when they use their mont’ka No one would say even though a unit counts as remained stationary, if it moved it still can’t shoot without penalty because the weapon rules take precedent and you’re just firing a heavy weapon after moving while counting as stationary.

But there are plenty of rules that let you count the unit as having remained stationary, and they don’t explicitly state that the rule for heavy weapons is ignored, and yet most people would say that you fire without penalty. But at the same time, model rules have generally always taken precedent over weapon rules.įor example, if an infantry unit is firing a heavy weapon after moving, the weapon type rule imposes a -1 hit penalty to hit rolls. Now If the issue is that the codex rule applies to wraithguard the unit and doesn’t supersede the weapon rules itself, which applies to the weapons, that could be an argument. All we know, is that as written, this unit is allowed to shoot even while in engagement range with no exceptions specified. There’s no real basis to say that it overrides the shooting in engagement rules but not the blast rules as well. The codex rules don’t specifically say which rules to override, which is why it seems strange to pick and choose. I get that there’s a rule for blast, but it’s still a general rule that moves aside for more specific rules.